“The Trial” — answering the challenging questions
During my mission to New Zealand in 1971-1972, I obtained a copy of “THE TRIAL”, a booklet produced by the Auckland Stake Mission of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (P.O. Box 13-119, Onehunga, Auckland, New Zealand). It presents a mock trial in which representatives of the Church of Jesus Christ and representatives of other Christian religions discuss doctrinal differences. Presented below are the various sections of ‘The Trial’, with the various doctrinal points presented in each section. The sections are first listed chronologically as they are presented in the book, “The Trial”. You can click on any of the bold, green section headings to view the discussion of the doctrinal topic. Following the chronological listing, I have listed alphabetically the doctrinal topics covered in the booklet. You can find a topic which interests you in that listing, and then move back up the main screen to click on the desired section. As I have entered the text of the booklet on this website, I have softened some of the confrontational language contained in the original writing. Harsh language serves no productive purpose in gospel discussions. I have also corrected grammatical and spelling errors. Through the process, I have tried to stay true to the core messages of the booklet, but in a Christ-like and understanding way.
THE TRIAL — A discussion between missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and representatives of other Christian faiths
The Prosecution: Representatives of all major Christian religions; an agnostic; an atheist.
The Defense: Missionaries from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
The Judge: A Jewish Rabbi of the Orthodox Jewish faith
INTRODUCTION
Judge: Gentlemen, we are here today to establish truth among a confused Christian world. The prosecution has chosen for their counsel representatives from all of the major Christian faiths, to question these two young men who represent the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We will remain until truth is established. The prosecution has expressed a desire to promote truth today. In examining my notes, it seems that the questions to be answered today include: 1) the question of current revelation, 2) the question of the authenticity of the Latter-day Saint apostles and prophets, and 3) the question of a need for a latter-day restoration of Christ’s original church and doctrine. Although all of the prosecution members have claimed inspiration for their churches, none have made the claim of “divine revelation”, nor the appearance of God and his Son, Jesus Christ to your founding leaders, as do these Latter-day Saint missionaries. I now invite the prosecution to proceed.
SECTION 1 — “All truth” versus ongoing revelation; modern-day revelation?
SECTION 2 — The Nature of God, corporeal body or spirit essence
SECTION 3 — Breath and Spirit in the scriptures; are these words interchangeable?
SECTION 4 — Are the members of the Godhead ‘three in one, one in three’, or separate beings?
SECTION 5 — An obvious Book of Mormon mistake, or contradiction
SECTION 6 — Who is Jehovah?
SECTION 7 — Resurrection, only a spiritual resurrection versus spiritual AND physical resurrection
SECTION 8 — The 144,000 special witnesses
SECTION 9 — The Sabbath day, Saturday or Sunday?
SECTION 10 — Modern-day prophets and apostles? Was Joseph Smith a prophet?
SECTION 11 — Structure and organization of the Church of Jesus Christ
SECTION 12 — Administration of the holy Sacrament
SECTION 13 — Temple work for the deceased
SECTION 14 — The Word of Wisdom
SECTION 15 — Elders, the office of elder in the priesthood
SECTION 16 — Apostles and prophets in the latter-days
SECTION 17 — As God is, man may become
SECTION 18 — Baptism in whose name?
SECTION 19 — Marriage in heaven
SECTION 20 — Plural marriage, or polygamy
SECTION 21 — Delays in Joseph Smith’s written accounts
SECTION 22 — John the Baptist as Elias
SECTION 23 — Why do we need the Book of Mormon?
SECTION 24 — Bodies of flesh and blood?
SECTION 25 — Adam-God theory
SECTION 26 — Is marriage truly necessary for exaltation?
SECTION 27 — Elijah and John the Baptist are the same person!
SECTION 28 — Joseph Smith’s name in the Bible? Was he a ‘prophet’?
SECTION 29 — What is the need for modern-day revelation?
SECTION 30 — Evidence that the Book of Mormon is fraudulent?
SECTION 31 — Do the scriptures authorize a paid ministry?
SECTION 32 — Healing of the sick in our day?
SECTION 33 — Judged by works or faith?
SECTION 34 — Infant baptism, proper or not?
SECTION 35 — The true meaning of the emblems of the holy Sacrament
SECTION 36 — How can you accept the Old Testament literally?
SECTION 37 — Is baptism really necessary for salvation?
SECTION 38 — Membership in a specific church is NOT necessary for salvation
SECTION 39 — Apostasy of early Mormon leaders
SECTION 40 — Tithing, fast offerings, and Fast Sundays
SECTION 41 — Which comes first — being baptized or receiving the priesthood
SECTION 42 — No prophets after Jesus Christ and John the Baptist are sanctioned or authorized!
SECTION 43 — Flags, military service, war, elections and government
SECTION 44 — Did Christ’s original church really ‘fall away’, as the Mormons claim?
SECTION 45 — Thou shalt not kill
SECTION 46 — The stick of Judah and the stick of Joseph
SECTION 47 — Does the Bible truly predict the coming forth of the Book of Mormon?
SECTION 48 — There is to be no additional scripture besides the Bible!
SECTION 49 — Adam, Eve, and their offspring — a Mormon contradiction!
SECTION 50 — The Welfare and Humanitarian programs of the Church of Jesus Christ
SECTION 51 — Blood atonement
SECTION 52 — Persons of color in the LDS Church
SECTION 53 — A pre-existent state?
SECTION 54 — Plural heavens in the next life?
SECTION 55 — The time of the crucifixion of Christ, Bible vs. Book of Mormon
SECTION 56 — Who was Christ ‘begotten of’?
SECTION 57 — When was the original Church of Jesus Christ actually formed or established?
SECTION 58 — Do the Christian churches and its ministers truly lack divine authority?
SECTION 59 — Why do you speak of ‘foreordination’, while the Bible does not?
SECTION 60 — Priesthood; Old Testament priesthood versus Christ as the eternal High Priest
SECTION 61 — Joseph Smith, prophet or imposter
SECTION 60 — Closing statement by the Judge of the trial
— TOPICAL INDEX —
Adam and Eve — Adam and Eve and their offspring present a Mormon contradiction. (Section 49)
Adam-God theory — did Brigham Young truly say that Adam is God? (Section 25)
All truth — “all truth” versus revelation (Section 1)
Apostasy — apostasy of early Mormon leaders (Section 39)
Apostasy — did the original church of Christ really fall away? (Section 44)
Apostles and Prophets — Are there modern-day prophets and apostles? Was Joseph Smith a prophet? (Section 10)
Apostles and Prophets — Are there prophets and apostles in the latter days? (Section 16)
Atheism — How can you accept the Old Testament account as truth, or accept it literally? (Section 36)
Atonement, blood — Your doctrine regarding ‘blood atonement’ is not biblical. (Section 51)
Authority of God — Do today’s Christian churches lack divine authority? (Section 58)
Baptism — Which comes first, baptism or priesthood? (Section 41)
Baptism of infants — Proper or incorrect (Section 34)
Baptism in whose name? — In whose name should we be baptized? (Section 18)
Baptism, necessary? — Is a simple ritual like baptism really necessary to be saved? (Section 37)
Begotten — Who was Christ “…begotten of…”? (Section 56)
Bible — Does the Bible truly predict the coming forth of the Book of Mormon? (Section 47)
Bible — There is to be no additional scripture beyond the Bible! (Section 48)
Blood atonement — Your doctrine regarding ‘blood atonement’ is not biblical. (Section 51)
Book of Mormon — There is to be no additional scripture beyond the Bible! (Section 48)
Book of Mormon — Does the Bible truly predict the coming forth of the Book of Mormon? (Section 47)
Book of Mormon — We do not need the Book of Mormon? What is the point of having the Book of Mormon? (Section 23)
Book of Mormon mistakes — how do you explain ‘mistakes’ or ‘contradictions’ in the Book of Mormon? (Section 5)
Book of Mormon is fraudulent — We have proof that the Book of Mormon is fraudulent! (Section 30)
Book of Mormon, stick of Joseph — What are the sticks of Judah and Joseph (Section 46)
Breath and Spirit — are these words interchangeable in the scriptures’? (Scriptures 3)
Brigham Young and the Adam-God theory — did Brigham Young claim that God and Adam are one and the same? (Section 25)
Christ begotten of whom? — Who was Christ “…begotten of…”? (Section 56)
Church membership — membership in a specific church is not needed for salvation. We just need to follow Jesus. (Section 28)
Church of Christ — did the original church of Christ really ‘fall away’, as the Mormons claim? (Section 44)
Church of Christ — when was the original Church of Christ formed or established? (Section 57)
Church structure and organization — how is Christ’s church organized? (Section 11)
Closing statement — the closing statement of the Judge of the trial (Section 62)
Color, persons of — persons of color in the LDS Church (Section 52)
Crucifixion of the Lord, timing of — a discrepancy between the timing of the Crucifixion in the Bible and in the Book of Mormon (Section 55)
Delays in Joseph Smith’s written accounts — why the long delays in written accounts? (Section 21)
Elections — support of flags, military service, elections, war (Section 43)
Elias — is John the Baptist the Elias who was to come? (Section 22 and also Section 27)
Elder — the office of ‘elder’ in the priesthood; are young single men of the LDS church truly elders? (Section 15)
Establishment of the Church of Christ — when was the original Church of Christ formed or established? (Section 57)
Faith or works — Are we to be judged by works or faith? (Section 33)
Falling Away — did the original church of Christ really ‘fall away’, as the Mormons claim? (Section 44)
Fast offerings and Fast Sundays — found in the New Testament? (Section 40)
Flags — support of flags, military service, elections, war (Section 43)
Flesh and blood — do God and Jesus have bodies, or are they spirits? (Section 24)
Foreordination — why do you speak of ‘foreordination’, clearly a non-Biblical teaching? (Section 59)
God — the nature of God, corporeal body or spirit essence (Section 2)
God — men may become like God (Section 17)
Godhead — the nature of the Godhead, ‘three in one” or separate beings (Section 4)
Healing of the sick — is healing the sick possible in our day? (Section 32)
Heavens, plural — are there plural heavens in the next life? (Section 54)
High Priest, eternal — Christ is the eternal High Priest, but you speak of the Old Testament priesthood (Section 60)
Humanitarian and welfare service — is there scriptural support for your Church’s welfare plan? (Section 50)
Infant baptism — Proper or incorrect (Section 34)
Jehovah — who is Jehovah? (Section 6)
Jesus Christ — No prophets after Jesus and John the Baptist are sanctioned! (Section 42)
John the Baptist — is John the Baptist the Elias who was to come? (Section 22 and also Section 27)
John the Baptist — No prophets after Jesus and John the Baptist are sanctioned! (Section 42)
Joseph, the stick of — What are the sticks of Judah and Joseph (Section 46)
Joseph Smith — is he mentioned in the Bible, was he a prophet? (Section 28)
Joseph Smith — prophet or imposter? (Section 61)
Judah, the stick of — What are the sticks of Judah and Joseph (Section 46)
Killing — contradiction about ‘thou shalt not kill’ in Mormon scriptures? (Section 45)
Marriage in heaven — is there marriage in heaven? (Section 19)
Marriage here on earth — is it necessary for exaltation? (Section 26)
Military service — support of flags, military service, elections, war (Section 43)
Ministry, paid — do the scriptures authorize a paid ministry? (Section 31)
Modern-day revelation — the need for modern day revelation (Section 29)
Mormon leaders — widespread apostasy of early Mormon leaders (Section 39)
Nature of God — the nature of God, corporeal body or spirit essence (Section 2)
Nature of the Godhead — ‘three in one and one in three’, or separate entities? (Section 4)
Old Testament literalism — How can you accept the Old Testament account as truth, or accept it literally? (Section 36)
Organization, church — how is Christ’s church organized? (Section 11)
Paid ministry — do the scriptures authorize a paid ministry? (Section 31)
Persons of color — persons of color in the LDS Church (Section 52)
Plural heavens — are there plural heavens in the next life? (Section 54)
Polygamy — plural marriage (Section 20 and also Section 26)
Plural marriage — polygamy (Section 20 and also Section 26)
Preexistent state — a pre-existent state before mortal birth? (Section 53)
Priesthood— which comes first, baptism or priesthood? (Section 41)
Priesthood authority — do today’s Christian churches lack divine authority? (Section 58)
Priesthood, Old Testament — why do you use ‘Old Testament’ priesthood? (Section 60)
Prophets — no prophets after Jesus and John the Baptist are sanctioned! (Section 42)
Prophets and Apostles — are there modern-day prophets and apostles? Was Joseph Smith a prophet? (Section 10)
Resurrection — a spiritual versus a physical resurrection (Section 7)
Revelation — ongoing revelation versus “all truth” (Section 1)
Revelation — the need for modern day revelation (Section 29)
Sabbath Day — Saturday or Sunday? (Section 9)
Sacrament — proper administration of the Lord’s holy sacrament (Section 12)
Sacrament — the proper meaning of the emblems of the Sacrament (Section 35)
Salvation, baptism needed for? — Is a simple ritual like baptism really necessary to be saved? (Section 37)
Salvation and church membership — membership in a specific church is not needed for salvation. We just need to follow Jesus. (Section 28)
Scripture — there is to be no additional scripture beyond the Bible! (Section 48)
Sick, healing of the sick — is healing the sick possible in our day? (Section 32)
Spirit and Breath — are these words interchangeable in the scriptures’? (Section 3)
Sticks of Judah and Joseph — What are the sticks of Judah and Joseph (Section 46)
Structure of the church — how is Christ’s church organized and structured? (Section 11)
Temple work for the dead — temple work for deceased ancestors (Section 13)
Tithing — is this a New Testament requirement for membership? (Section 40)
Truth — “all truth” versus revelation (Section 1)
Vicarious work for the dead — temple work for deceased ancestors (Section 13)
War — support of flags, military service, elections, war (Section 43)
Welfare and humanitarian service — is there scriptural support for your Church’s welfare plan? (Section 50)
Witnesses — the special 144,000 witnesses mention in the book of Revelation (Section 8)
Word of Wisdom — Doctrine and Covenants section 89 (Section 14)
Works or faith — Are we to be judged by works or faith? (Section 33)
Written accounts, delays — why the long delays in written accounts? (Section 21)
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